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Sermon Browser version 2
23 August, 2012
2:37 pm
Mark Barnes
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As many of you will know, SermonBrowser has been creaking a little with the release of WordPress 3.4. That's because SermonBrowser is 4 years old, and was first released for WordPress 2.3!

What many will not know is that the age of the SermonBrowser code means that it's difficult to update. It doesn't take advantages of many of the new features of both WordPress and PHP, so it's more complex than it needs to be. On top of that, I've learned a lot about programming in those four years, and there's things I'd do more efficiently now than I managed then.

I have spent quite a long time trying to make SermonBrowser 100% compatible with recent versions of WordPress, but I've have come to the conclusion that the only way this is going to happen is for SermonBrowser to be entirely rewritten using all the modern WordPress standards such as custom post types. You'll be glad to know that rewriting SermonBrowser has begun in earnest, and one of my employers is supporting the project by allowing me to do some of the coding during work time.

Version 2 of SermonBrowser is still months away. SermonBrowser is about 4,500 lines of code, so you'll appreciate that rewriting all of that from scratch will take time. But my employer needs the new version by December at the latest, so that is the target.

Although the new SermonBrowser will be completely rewritten, you'll be able to import all of your existing data, and I'm intending that templates will work in a very similar way. The new version of SermonBrowser will require at least WordPress 3.3.

I know a few months is a long time to wait when SermonBrowser isn't compatible with WordPress 3.4. If you're aware of patches to SermonBrowser that increase compatibility with WordPress 3.4, could you post links to them in this thread? That way I should be able to quickly get a updated version about for WordPress 3.4 users. (Please note, I'm not intending to add any new features to the existing version of SermonBrowser, only fix simple bugs. Feature enhancements are being considered for the new version only, and then only after the initial release.)

Here's a screenshot from the current development to whet your appetite.

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24 August, 2012
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Awesome!  Can't wait to see it.  There have been many posts over the past few months with various hacks and patches to keep the current version of SB working with the current version of WP.  I am running SB with no problems.

Rich Brown
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1 September, 2012
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Agreed. Great news.

Aside from a few patches and hacks and a broken time import, SB seems to be working on my various sites (one of which has around 800 audio and about 200 video files,  and several feed mobile device apps)

I'd love to help with extensive testing of the new version at any or all points along the development cycle.

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5 September, 2012
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Work is progressing well on this new version (but there's still a long way to go). I've written about 1,100 lines of code so far (by way of comparison the existing version of SermonBrowser has about 6,500 lines of code). If you guys (or anyone else) can tell me what patches you're using to get 0.45 working with the latest versions of WordPress, I can very quickly update 0.45 for existing users, without getting distracted too much. Thanks for all your support.

I'll be releasing several beta versions (and possibly even a few alphas) once I've got most of the required functionality in place. In the meantime, you can follow progress at https://www.assembla.com/spaces/sermon-browser-2/ (whilst you can download a nightly build from there, but there won't be enough functionality to make that worthwhile for several more weeks).

5 September, 2012
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Mark here's one that I had to use: http://www.sermonbrowser.com/f.....e-sermons/

Rich Brown
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5 September, 2012
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Ben Miller
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Mark, there are two different changes that need to be made to the default templates, explained in this topic:

http://www.sermonbrowser.com/f.....mons-page/

I think that many newer WordPress themes are having trouble with the default Sermon Browser templates, and these fixes will eliminate some service requests from new users.  Let me know if you have any questions about them.

Ben Miller, Pathways Church, Appleton, Wisconsin, USA
Read the new FAQ, last updated 11/21/2013
Announcing version 0.45.12

5 September, 2012
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Mark, I'm sure you get lots of "helpful" suggestions, but I wonder if there would be a way to separate out the files for customizing Sermon Browser's appearance so that they don't get overwritten by a Sermon Browser update. I use the Genesis system for my sites and can customize appearance by "hooks" into the main theme files. Updates to the theme don't affect my appearance at all.

Of course, it may be easier said than done, but I thought I'd just chime in with the hopes that this might not be too hard to implement.

 

Maranatha!
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6 September, 2012
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Great news Mark! Hope the coding goes well and look forward to the new version! Really helpful to have the update after various people wondering about the future of sermon browser and for those of us who use on multiple sites.

I've had to manually add a lot of the iTunes tags so some way to update them quickly would be good and to validate the feed. I also hide the rss and iTunes subscription part as a lot of themes don't like the CSS. Lastly I'd love to be able to show the number of downloads each sermon has had on the front end and allow people to like and comment on individual sermons which it looks like they can from the screenshot.

Broadcasting new sermons to social networks is useful and I use mail chimp broadcast to do this which should work with a custom post type. Worth looking at wpforchurch and sermon engine to see what they're doing.

Finally we use the element media player so it works across more devices but even on mobiles an easy way to play and download sermons would be good. ITunes currently has an issue with byte range requests on some servers and Wordpress installs so some comments suggest hosting the mp3 on other servers.

All the best!

12 September, 2012
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Mark, fantastic news...we've been holding off on a WP upgrade until there is at least a patch. If I make make a pitch for something in version 2, it would be multilingual support via WPML for those of us posting sermon audio in more than one language. We are at English and Spanish already, with Portuguese next. 

 

Blessings, 

Tony

13 September, 2012
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Tony,

SermonBrowser 2 uses custom post types so will fully support WPML. In the WPML translation options you'll choose whether you want all the sermons to appear on all languages, or whether you want sermons to be specific to each language. If you choose the latter option, when you're editing a sermon you'll then have the normal WPML box that asks you what language this sermon is in.

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16 September, 2012
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This is such great news Mark.  Thank you so much.

18 September, 2012
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Hi Mark,

Please could you add an option to include the passage reference in the podcast feed?

Thanks, Mike

19 September, 2012
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I'll add an option to append it to the sermon title e.g. The Lord's Prayer (Matt 6:9-13)

21 September, 2012
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Thanks for your hard work on this, Mark!  You are truly blessing the Kingdom with your programming skills.  Just watched your preview video on Vimeo, and must say I am VERY excited to see this in action in my testlab.

 

Thanks again, and God bless!

Matt Schlueter, Multimedia Coordinator
Dodgeville United Methodist Church -- Dodgeville, WI

28 September, 2012
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Brother Mark,

I know this comes late in the development cycle.

So maybe it could be added to a wish list for the future (if enough others would find it useful).

What about scheduling sermon publication date, the way WP works for posts and pages?

a.  I have a mission that wants their weekly message to be available on Monday morning.

Being able to pre-load the sermon and have it become available on Monday would be a big help.

b.  I have a preacher who doesn't want to publish certain church sermons until after he's delivered them (a second time) to a conference.

Being able to put them online with a future, post-event date would also be a big help.

I'm still tied to my chair waiting for version two testing time.

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29 September, 2012
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I'm sure you are aware but:

  • We’re planning a December 5 release for WordPress 3.5
  • The biggest thing we’ve been working on is overhauling the media experience from the ground up. We’ve made it all fair game: How you upload photos, arrange galleries, insert images into posts, and more. It’s still rough around the edges and some pieces are missing — which means now is the perfect time to test it out, report issues, and help shape our headline feature.
  • Developers: We love you. We do. And one of the things we strive to do with every release is be compatible with all existing plugins and themes. To make sure we don’t break anything, we need your help. Please, please test your plugins and themes against 3.5.

[Source: http://wordpress.org/news/2012/09/wordpress-3-5-beta-1/%5D

 

Sounds about the expected release date for SermonBrowser 2?

Anyway just to bring this to you attention sooner rather than later! Keep up the good work,

Every blessing,

James

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30 September, 2012
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tibc,

There's a discussion about future sermons on the suggestions forum. There'll be some provision for this in SB2:

https://sermonbrowser.uservoice.com/forums/177317-general/suggestions/3182273-published-draft-option-for-sermons

https://sermonbrowser.uservoice.com/forums/177317-general/suggestions/3182274-publish-on-date-option

 

cybersheep100,

I downloaded a beta of 3.5 a few days ago. They've designed it well, so that even though the media upload pages have been redesigned, the old method still works. Only a few small number of adjustments were needed. I'll make sure SB2 fully supports 3.5.

30 September, 2012
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Mark Barnes said
Tony,

SermonBrowser 2 uses custom post types so will fully support WPML. In the WPML translation options you'll choose whether you want all the sermons to appear on all languages, or whether you want sermons to be specific to each language. If you choose the latter option, when you're editing a sermon you'll then have the normal WPML box that asks you what language this sermon is in.

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Thank you Mark! Or, how about ¡Muchismas Gracias!

4 October, 2012
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@Mark,

 

Thanks for links, and the good news.

 

Will there be any major changes to the podcast feed?

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5 October, 2012
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You'll be able to edit the feed more easily to add some of the information that iTunes allows, and it will support images. You'll also be able to specify how many items will show in the feed.

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