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12 October, 2011
1:54 am
drkdragonstar
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I have been waiting and hoping that this project will move forward since May, but no updates have been made

Using version 3.1+, there are numerous bugs that make this plugin largely unusable. These issues mainly stem around the fact that you can't keep track of what preachers, series, and services you have listed because they just don't show up anywhere but in the database itself.

I don't want to have to use WP 3.0 with its security problems just to get this app to work. ;(

12 October, 2011
8:19 am
xrstokes
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Can you elaborate more on the problems that you’re having and the browser that you’re using when making changes. What’s the url of your site so I can see what you mean? My site just got finished today here. I’m using 3.2.1. but because I don’t understand what your problem is and I’m new, maybe my site is broken and I don’t know it.

Grant

I Love People. I Love Jesus. But most of all. I Love telling People about Jesus.
13 October, 2011
12:38 pm
drkdragonstar
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I am still testing locally before deploying to our webhost.

I just created a new Wordpress install to see if migrating up from 3.0->3.1->3.2.1 caused any problems.

I can get the sermons to show up and play but, behind the scenes there are still a lot of goofy bugs. For instance:

1) New preachers do not show up in the preachers list. I have to look in the "new sermon" area to see who is already there. We have quite a few guest speakers where I worship and this makes things quite confusing when adding new lessons.

2) New series do not show up either. it seems like, until they are associated with a sermon, they do not refresh in the Series and Services window, also quite confusing.

After reinstalling, things actually WORK, but I am concerned that this plugin will not be very maintainable in its current state. I don't know whether I should deploy this to the public environment or just hold off and see if some updates come out that fix these common issues.

14 October, 2011
12:57 am
xrstokes
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I'm sorry that you've had such a frustrating run. We've all been there with some part of the process. All my pain and frustration was around the podcasting area with iTunes. I followed that same upgrade path and didn't have those same bugs. I was very careful around the upgrade paths. Full backups first, disabling all the plug-in’s and upgrading manually. Don't know if that helps or if I'm paranoid. I had some problems early on when i was using a caching plug-in that was helping with performance. It really mucked with my sermon database. I know it would be a bit of a pain but you could install 3.0 in subdirectory, with no other plug-in’s and try upgrades again. Maybe it was related to something else. At the end of the day it works now though right? And if you can find a plug-in that does a similar thing then let me know and I'd love to have a look. For me this plug-in really dictates the rest of the site. If I have to delay upgrades for the sake of this plug-in I will. I see it as quite an important outreach. I don’t know where they all come from but we get nearly as many downloads as people come to church. I like to think that they might make a difference in the life of at least one person who doesn’t attend a church.

Grant

I Love People. I Love Jesus. But most of all. I Love telling People about Jesus.
26 October, 2011
11:08 pm
Klaus
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xrstokes said:

I'm sorry that you've had such a frustrating run. We've all been there with some part of the process. All my pain and frustration was around the podcasting area with iTunes. I followed that same upgrade path and didn't have those same bugs. I was very careful around the upgrade paths. Full backups first, disabling all the plug-in’s and upgrading manually. Don't know if that helps or if I'm paranoid. I had some problems early on when i was using a caching plug-in that was helping with performance. It really mucked with my sermon database. I know it would be a bit of a pain but you could install 3.0 in subdirectory, with no other plug-in’s and try upgrades again. Maybe it was related to something else. At the end of the day it works now though right? And if you can find a plug-in that does a similar thing then let me know and I'd love to have a look. For me this plug-in really dictates the rest of the site. If I have to delay upgrades for the sake of this plug-in I will. I see it as quite an important outreach. I don’t know where they all come from but we get nearly as many downloads as people come to church. I like to think that they might make a difference in the life of at least one person who doesn’t attend a church.

Grant

I'm experiencing similar problems…

1) Two different Apache servers, both with clean WP 3.2.1 installs,, no additional plug-ins aside from 1PixelOut, and two different browsers, current versions of Firefox & Opera. Before even attempting to add my own data, only ONE of the two default preachers is visible (ID1, C H Spurgeon) and under Series & Services only ONE each is visible, ID1 Exposition of Psalms and ID1 Sunday Morning.

2) Adding new Preachers, Series, or Services are also invisible on their respective maintenance pages, though they are visible when adding/editing a sermon and on the drop-down filters.

2) As noted, adding a sermon of the missing type makes that type visible. But of course, at that point it can't be deleted.

It's enough to make me think, no way, time to move on to another plug in, or dive into the code and see if it's something obvious I can fix myself.

I should probably post this someplace else where it's more likely to be noticed.

29 October, 2011
1:14 am
xrstokes
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9 November, 2011
11:50 pm
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2) Adding new Preachers, Series, or Services are also invisible on their respective maintenance pages, though they are visible when adding/editing a sermon and on the drop-down filters.

It's enough to make me think, no way, time to move on to another plug in, or dive into the code and see if it's something obvious I can fix myself.

Same problems here. I decided to test drive this plugin before creating something of my own. It looks like Sermon Browser will do what I want, but I was a bit worried when the first thing I tried to do didn’t work.

On the admin > sermons > series & services page:

It only shows the first series and services in the list. If you add a new series, it adds it to the database but it doesn’t show up on the "series & services" page. So it makes it impossible to edit or delete a series without editing the database directly.

If you add a sermon, you can select the new series or service from the drop down menus, so at least that part is working. But again, you can’t manage the series & services from the admin panel.

Frustrating.

- Wordpress v3.2.1
- Sermon Browser v0.45.4

11 November, 2011
11:05 pm
mcfarlandclan
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Klaus said:

I'm experiencing similar problems…

2) Adding new Preachers, Series, or Services are also invisible on their respective maintenance pages, though they are visible when adding/editing a sermon and on the drop-down filters.

I solved this problem by editing the admin.php file, lines 601-602.

I replaced the code with the following:

$series = $wpdb->get_results("SELECT {$wpdb->prefix}sb_series.*, COUNT({$wpdb->prefix}sb_sermons.id) AS sermon_count FROM {$wpdb->prefix}sb_series LEFT JOIN {$wpdb->prefix}sb_sermons ON series_id = {$wpdb->prefix}sb_series.id GROUP BY id ORDER BY name ASC");
$services = $wpdb->get_results("SELECT {$wpdb->prefix}sb_services.*, COUNT({$wpdb->prefix}sb_sermons.id) AS sermon_count FROM {$wpdb->prefix}sb_services LEFT JOIN {$wpdb->prefix}sb_sermons ON service_id = {$wpdb->prefix}sb_services.id GROUP BY id ORDER BY name ASC");

Specifically, I changed the "GROUP BY" field on both lines to simply read "id", since the "id" in the series or service will always be available to GROUP BY. Because the original code used the "service_id" and "series_id" to GROUP BY, the lists of services and series would only ever show items that were being used in existing sermon entries.

- Jeff

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